{"id":2414,"date":"0001-07-19T17:32:57","date_gmt":"0001-07-19T17:32:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/?p=2414"},"modified":"2021-07-19T17:34:47","modified_gmt":"2021-07-19T17:34:47","slug":"where-does-the-model-come-from-a-rebuttal-to-reviewers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/0001\/07\/19\/where-does-the-model-come-from-a-rebuttal-to-reviewers\/","title":{"rendered":"Where does the model come from? &#8211; A rebuttal to reviewers"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Readers have written to me that they have encounter criticism from reviewers who question the reliance of<br \/>an assumed causal graphs or some of their derivatives. I have encountered this criticism myself and I would like to share my rebuttal with readers, so as to help minimize this line of criticism.<br \/><br \/>Here is a letter I send to the program committee of a conference in Machine Learning.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Dear Program Committee,<br \/>I would like to call your attention to an attitude against which I have been fighting \u00a0for the past 30 years and which evidently is still common among researchers and reviewers.<br \/><br \/>I am referring to remarks made by Reviewer #7 of our paper, which judge model-based, methodological works to be &#8220;incremental and unlikely to have much impact&#8221;, ostensibly because &#8220;we do not have the model&#8221; or &#8220;one can never tell if the model is correct&#8221;, or &#8220;where the structures that are reasoned about come from&#8221; or &#8220;we require knowledge of the process that will be unknown&#8221;.<br \/><br \/>If we examine carefully the developments of ideas in computer science, or even in statistics, we find that most innovative works germinated from model-based questions, assuming that a model is known and asking: (1) what should the world look like for our question to me well-defined, (2) what algorithms can exploit its idiosyncratic features, (3) Can any algorithm produce the desired result and (4) whether the model has any testable implications.<br \/><br \/>I think conferences and journals should encourage such analytical work to continue and, at the same time, discourage reviewers from dismissing such work as &#8220;incremental&#8221; because &#8220;we do not have the model&#8221;.<br \/><br \/>I hope you share my feelings about this issue. I do not know what we can do to enforce this understanding community wide, but I hope in your communication with reviewers you succeed in conveying this spirit.<br \/><br \/>Sincerely yours,<br \/>Judea Pearl<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Readers have written to me that they have encounter criticism from reviewers who question the reliance ofan assumed causal graphs or some of their derivatives. I have encountered this criticism myself and I would like to share my rebuttal with readers, so as to help minimize this line of criticism. Here is a letter I [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2414","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2414","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2414"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2414\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2415,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2414\/revisions\/2415"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2414"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2414"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/causality.cs.ucla.edu\/blog\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2414"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}